Help me Identify

"Eddie" (riolku95)
01/22/2015 at 21:58 • Filed to: help

I.need help identifying this car. I saw it few months back once and til this day i dont know what either of these 2 are.

Sorry for the bad pics. Caught these while they were moving or i didn't reach far enough.

DISCUSSION (17)

TheHondaBro > Eddie
01/22/2015 at 21:59

I wanna say they're an Accord and a Civic, both first gen.

I own dead car brands only > Eddie
01/22/2015 at 22:01

the second picture is a dodge omni or a Plymouth horizon. Both are identical. Except for badging.

XJDano > Eddie
01/22/2015 at 22:01

Second is dodge omni

Boxer_4 > Eddie
01/22/2015 at 22:02

First one is a 3rd gen Honda Accord 3 door. Second one is a Plymouth Horizon.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Eddie
01/22/2015 at 22:03

Number 1 is a Honda of some sort, but number 2 is most definitely a Dodge Omni.

Boxer_4 > I own dead car brands only
01/22/2015 at 22:03

Enlarging the picture reveals it's the Plymouth.

Eddie > Boxer_4
01/22/2015 at 22:06

thanksman!

Birddog > Eddie
01/22/2015 at 22:08

First is a Honda Accord hatch. A bit of a Unicorn here in the Midwest.

Second is a Plymouth Horizon (the taillights are a giveaway). And in rust free condition? Very much a Unicorn here. I want it!

Edit.. Where in Chicagoland are you?

Eddie > Birddog
01/22/2015 at 22:11

I.somehow kepe.finding unicorns i guess haha

Birddog > Eddie
01/22/2015 at 22:19

Both of those cars in your area are pretty rare.

Bad72AMX > Eddie
01/22/2015 at 22:21

First is an accord hatch from the late 80s. Second is a Dodge Omni/ Plymouth Horizon.they are pretty boring, but the story of their development is an incredible tail of pride, long distance relationships, and stubbornness.

Chrysler leadership dictated that Chrysler of Europe and Chrysler US were to develop a FWD compact that would be a competitive world car. Originally Europe was to take the lead because they had Simca engineers with FWD experience and they were familiar with maximizing space and comfort in a small package. American engineers felt slighted and were reluctant to relinquish any control. Differences in culture and imperial/ metric added more issues. The lack of a fast way to communicate images and blueprints (this was the 70s) and the time zone difference compounded all of these issues.

At one point, Europe had done all they could to minimize the footprint and submitted the design for the American crew to tweak. They sent it back with something like 6 inches of additional front overhang. Europe assumed it was for crash worthiness, but still inquired why. Turns out, the American team just felt it was too small and added size for no reason. Then, there was argument over suspension design. The Americans wanted to use Macpherson struts which were inexpensive, space efficient and modern. The Euro team had only used torsion bars and wanted to stick with them, even though they intruded on passenger space.

By the time deadlines were getting tight, the two teams agreed on virtually nothing but overall shape. The project cost more and wasted more time than was projected, so each team was allowed to do their own tweaks and submit them for local production. The two cars looked almost identical, but share almost no parts, even body sheet metal. Europe kept their torsion bars while the US got struts. It became a mainstay of the US Chrysler lineup for over a decade with no significant changes except a move from a VW derived driveline to a unit sourced, ironically enough, Simca. The irony was that Mother Chrysler had ran out of money by this time and had sold off their European operations to Peugeot and thus had to buy production rights to the engine.

Eddie > Birddog
01/22/2015 at 22:25

Kinja'd!!!